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Brungo · May 20, 2005, 09:55 PM // 21:55

Wow, I hate to say it. I do advertise the group I am forming and ask that I get people who know what they are doing. I don't use words like "morons" "idiots" etc...However, I do say things to the effect..."lvl x x/x LFG for mission. Need people who know what they are doing" "lfg for mission...if you know how to run in a group and not charge into every mob while your monk is healing, I need you" "lfg for mission....if your wanting to group and actually stay for the entire mission, I need you" etc....Bottom line, this has got to be one of the dumbest group of players (if the shoe fits, wear it) I have EVER seen.

Dred Skullord · May 20, 2005, 10:00 PM // 22:00

I beg to differ. This is the 2nd dumbest group of players. If you want to see #1 check out this pitiful group:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=13153

Navaros · May 21, 2005, 03:36 AM // 03:36

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Originally Posted by Granamyr

Navaros, I spent the better part of 15 minutes having to tolerate your all caps spam for non-moron monks in Amnoon Oasis. It was later revised to non-idiot monk and then you trying to condemn another player for being an idiot. During that time, I never saw anyone group with you and pretty much all of the outpost was informing you how futile your spam was toward reaching your goal of having "no morons".

Apparently your group advertising methods didn't prove too fruitful as you had just failed whatever mission you were on. Everyone wants to win, no one wants to have to replay a mission. You are deceiving yourself if you think you are not part of the problem as to why your groups fail.

well indeed the Monk player who was with me prior to the messages you saw was a moron. that moron is the one who got us killed. we told that person that to do, but the player did not listen to reason or follow instructions

that is why a lot of you guys' comments about "a good leader takes the blame for his team" is invalid when it comes to a computer game. in a real life situation i'd tend to agree with the principle that the leader does not blame his men. but in real life there are many different factors in play which make the situation uncomparable to that of a video game. such as: in real life, you know the people on your team - and chances are if they were not competent, they would have been screened-out from ever getting on your team in the first place. plus in real-life, your orders will be followed whereas in Guild Wars many moron players have the mentality to "attack anything that moves ASAP!", no matter how much you tell them not to.

in Guild Wars, you do not always have the same such resources to you, as you would in real life, when forming a team. hence the best fallback option is a no-morons party.

as for the spam being futile; that is not the case at all. yes occassionally a moron will slip through even after a no-morons screening process; but more often than not, the highest quality of players can be acquired in the requesting no-morons manner. yes this party takes longer to form than a "random LFG group"...but the tradeoff is worth it because for investing some extra time to recruit only non-morons prior to the mission, you end up being rewarded by saving time in the long run by not having to repeat the mission multiple times

Fantras · May 21, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45

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Originally Posted by Navaros

a lot of idiots will tell you they're idiots right away if you simply ask them. so making it clear up front saves a lot of aggravation.

Totally. Everytime someone joins my group, I always say, "Hey, you aren't a moron, are you?" And if they are, they ALWAYS say, "You know what? I am. But since you asked I just felt compelled to tell you that I am indeed a complete dumbass. Thank you for saving me the embarrassment." To which I say "Np" and move on.

Happens everyday.

/sarcasm

Navaros · May 21, 2005, 05:54 AM // 05:54

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Originally Posted by Fantras

Totally. Everytime someone joins my group, I always say, "Hey, you aren't a moron, are you?" And if they are, they ALWAYS say, "You know what? I am. But since you asked I just felt compelled to tell you that I am indeed a complete dumbass. Thank you for saving me the embarrassment." To which I say "Np" and move on.

Happens everyday.

/sarcasm

it does happen every day, if you actually do it.

it seems many/most of you are closed-minded to the idea of even trying it out. you are just assuming that they won't tell you so up front. but in reality, most of the time they will be honest and do indeed tell you so up front. it really is just as simple as asking the question.

Fantras · May 21, 2005, 06:01 AM // 06:01

Lemme ask you this. Do you specifically say, "Are you a moron?" And do they specifically respond, "Yes." ???

SOT · May 21, 2005, 06:06 AM // 06:06

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Originally Posted by Fantras

Lemme ask you this. Do you specifically say, "Are you a moron?" And do they specifically respond, "Yes." ???

The truth would horrify you

MaximusNaughtius · May 21, 2005, 02:56 PM // 14:56

hmmmm.... it would be interesting to try something like this:

LFG - mor(m)ons, n00bs, idiots and handicaped ONLY!

Galatea Orea · May 21, 2005, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by Siren

Yeah, I know how you feel. Some of the LFG requests ("no morons," especially) are simply abysmal, which is why I try to make mine eye-catching and bouncy.

"Fiery redheaded Elementalist looking for big, strapping Warriors, soothing Monks, to accompany her on explorations out into the wild outdoors!"

Stuff like that. It actually really gets people's attention. XD

Yup. That's what I do also. Works very well. And you usually get affable people to play with who have sense of humor. The "no morons" and "no retards" and "no noobs" game seekers are usually juvenile and definitely to be avoided.

Syklone · May 22, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by Navaros

well indeed the Monk player who was with me prior to the messages you saw was a moron. that moron is the one who got us killed. we told that person that to do, but the player did not listen to reason or follow instructions

The monk in question... wouldnt be Marguerite Sillion ? Or was it another monk who couldnt heal a paper cut ?

Just asking as I have been in your group and I remember some of the monks you have had and was curious which monk couldn't 'cut it' with you.

Teh Azman · May 22, 2005, 11:53 PM // 23:53

The only group of people who are worse than those who shout things like LFG no morons are those who insult toher peoples religions on the forum. Maximus, there are mormons reading this, including me, so STFU.

MyriaN · May 23, 2005, 02:10 AM // 02:10

Unfortunately, the "real" morons are probably too stupid or self-centered to realize that they are indeed morons.
IMHO, the best people to team with are probably people who are pretty critical of themselves. They think about how they can improve themselves and their teams. They don't try to surround themselves with pompous know-it-alls.

Dagbiker · May 23, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06

i think it would be funny,
"lfg- morons!!!"
"they might not like noobs, but i do"
"if your [r] button is stuck, msg me"
"i laph in the face of contionual failer, come laph with me"

sybban · May 23, 2005, 03:22 AM // 03:22

Hey I want this complaining to stop right now dammit. Don't you know that people who complain about morons are highly superior to us all and in no way were they at fault. For shame, go sit in the corner

Juhanah · May 23, 2005, 03:54 AM // 03:54

Navaros is the biggest spammer of "LFG NO MORRONS" i've ever seen in guildwars.

I've first seen him spam the chat in d'alessio seaboard while i was gathering henchmen to do the mission. Then after i finished the mission, i am selling my items at the merchant and who i see entering the district? Navaros Own U. The first thing he do is "LFG NON RETARD AND NO MORRONS FOR MISSION + BONUS" about 150 time in the chat.. When i told him it was the worse way to get "non-retard" people by spamming like one, he shown his good racist skills calling me a paki..

No wonder he get his party killed or people going to talk to dinas when they want to do the bonus. When you ask for non retard or non morrons.. that's the only thing you will get because in the eyes of real "non-retard" people you already look like one by asking that.

Navaros · May 23, 2005, 04:14 AM // 04:14

well actually, i believe i called you my friend...i was trying to make the point that even though you are not of my race, we can still be friends. funny how you neglected to notice that part where i called you my friend.

anyhow i had had many morons on that mission who ruined it. if you had seen what i had seen on that mission, you'd understand my spam a lot better. in fact it peeved me off so much i even used that as an example in an earlier post in this thread. and furthermore you should know that if someone is hostile to me in-game, i have no problem being hostile right back at 'em. that's just called being fair. so if you're a jerk to me, why can't i be a jerk back to you (not that i was in your case in particular, because i did try to be friends with you).

Juhanah · May 23, 2005, 04:35 AM // 04:35

hehe sorry. I remember you said "juhanah my paki friend"
Just thought the "friend" was sarcastic.. I'm not someone who get angry easily over stuff so don't worry about that.

I still think asking for non-retard or morrons people is the worse way to get a good team tho

I think the best team member are usualy the one who stay in the party after you have failed. And wish to restart the mission with new aproach.

..or npc.. I play alot with npc. Sometime they act like ultimate morrons but i manage to deal with them most of the time.

I understand how frustrating it is to get a bad party over and over. But by asking non morrons you have great chance of getting only the morrons of the place in the party.
I got pissed off at a team once and when i was back to the outpost i said "LF people who don't feel like attracting the whole map on them for mission+bonus".. It worked pretty good

Dagbiker · May 23, 2005, 06:30 AM // 06:30

i got another one

"i want YOU to run tward THEM"

codechino · May 24, 2005, 04:23 PM // 16:23

I've tried both methods ("LFG no morons" and simply "LFG") and there is a plain increase in my success rate when using the former. I find that those that join the "no morons" groups tend to be others that are fed up with the groupies that run around doing whatever they want, so there's at least a mutual respect among the group. Then again, my requests are usually along the lines of "LFG of people who can at least spell, or are mostly intelligent." At least there's no name calling =D

MaximusNaughtius · May 24, 2005, 05:58 PM // 17:58

I want to officially and sincerely apologize to all mormons reading this thread and beeing offended by my post. My fragile adult mind is utterly damaged by constantly watching monthy python, south park and married with children.

"LFG-no morons" is not a nice way to invite people, even though it probably works somehow. My vote is: be creative. it's fun to read some original invitations some people can come up with.

LFG - only people who know the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow please!